Tape 13G, Side Aleph

Oy — come to me — so through this you will draw close to the Holy One Blessed Be He — to Torah. Yes. And there will be for you a complete healing — a complete teshuvah. Yes. (Saba laughs.) Such has not yet been in the world — such Torah teachings — such stories — such conversations — such students — Rebbe Nassan. Rebbe Nassan — this is the student of the holy Rabbainu. Rebbe Nassan. And he was a gaon and a tzaddik — such a gaon. His father-in-law was a world-renowned gaon — Rebbe Dovid Tzvi. [Yes.] All the world — he was — he was the rabbi over — over a great area in Russia. More — more — the holy Rabbainu spoke about him. He was a gaon. The holy Rabbainu said to Rebbe Nassan: "Your father-in-law is a gaon and a tzaddik!" (Saba laughs.) He is not a gaon for his own sake — for a name — for honor — for… He is a gaon. And even so — he did not know of Rabbainu. He knew…

Who is this? Who is this? [Yisroel Meir.] Yisroel Meir? [Yoy.] (Saba laughs.) What is news from Russia? [Blessed be Hashem.] (Saba laughs.) Can one travel? [Yes — yes.] To Russia? [Soon there will be a plane to Kishinev.] Ah? [Soon — in two weeks' time there will be flights to Kishinev — Kishinev — Kishinev.] Kishinev? [Kishinev. (not understood — the friend speaks with Saba in Yiddish.)] (Saba laughs.) They will come — all the world will come to Uman — this — (not understood) — the miracles and wonders that will be at the time of redemption now — more — more than the redemption from Egypt. I saw this in the Zohar. [Yes.]

…That he should merit to raise him to Torah — to the wedding canopy — and to good deeds. [Amen.] And all salvations. [Amen.]

…Perhaps to give me some place to be there near the synagogue — to hear Kaddish and the… Yes. Ask him. [I will ask him.] Perhaps he — perhaps he will agree. [Fine — I will ask him.] Good.

…The Land of Yisroel is a holy land — we are a holy people. Yes. This is ours — all the world — they are — they are the land of the nations — not the Land of Yisroel. Only here — the Land of Yisroel. Yes. (Saba laughs.)

…I had some coins — some pennies. I gave to him — yes. And blessed be Hashem I paid him. But he gave me the book: "When you have money — bring it to me." Yes — like this it was. [All who have compassion on people — people have compassion on him.] All the beauty — such was the printing of Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) — there was such beauty — and the binding was. [And where is this now? Where is this now?] Ah? [Where is this?] I do not know. There was such a binding and such paper — one does not see such beauty. Yes. And blessed be Hashem — how the Holy One Blessed Be He had mercy upon me — and I found such a book — the printing of Rebbe N… of Rebbe Yisroel — such beauty and such a binding. And he gave me: "When you have money — bring it to me." He gave me it — he understood that I very much need this book. He understood this. And he had a battle in his heart. What — if he sells the book — there is none other. Everyone knew — they do not print — because no one buys. (Saba laughs.) Likutay Tfilos — who — who would say Likutay Tfilos? (Saba laughs.) [And did you use this? Rebbe Yisroel?] And he gave me the book — a strong battle. Yes. He — (a problem with the tape) — he could have earned much — because it was impossible to obtain — impossible to buy. So not — not did they print. I had Likutay Tfilos from several printings from outside the country. Yes. There was such beauty — such grace — such awakening. But I gave it away. Not — not did I keep it. I gave this as gifts for bar mitzvahs. There was — there were some books for me — three — two or three books. Yes — I bought and gave — I bought — and I have none — not one has remained for me. I gave as a gift to the people of our circle — bar mitzvah — bridegroom. So I gave gifts. And I remained without. There was — the printing was so beautiful — there was not — there was not… [You have no Likutay Tfilos.] And the book — {he could have} — and I loved the people of our circle. What? He has a bar mitzvah — and I will not give a gift? I have no money. I took a book of Likutay Tfilos and gave it to him. Shimon Anshin — do you know him? [Yes.] Ah? [Yes.] I gave him for his bar mitzvah — I gave him such a book of Likutay Tfilos. (Saba laughs.) This is already over seventy years now. Is it possible to contact my daughter Tziporah? [Yes.] Do you know the number? [Yes — yes.] Tell her that you saw me. [Yes.] And I greatly long to hear from them — what — what is their welfare — how is everyone. [Fine — fine.] If possible. [Yes — yes — possible — I — I will pass on the message to her — yes.]

…Great ones — elders — great ones. [But Admors.] And masters of Kabbalah and… Yes. They had yiras Shamayim. And I went to them — I did not yet know Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner). I went — and he loved me. He entered with me into his house and received me with love. But he was an opponent — all the Slonim Chassidim are opponents of Breslov. Afterwards — when I merited to draw close to Rebbe Yisroel — and I received all kinds of — all kinds of humiliations and degradations. He said to me: "If you feel that this brings into you yiras Shamayim and emunah — do not listen to Rav Motl (of Slonim) — to any person in the world." He said this to me — but in a whisper — not in front of everyone. [Who? Rebbe Yisroel Kardonner? Who said? Rebbe Yisroel?] Rav Liishka — Rav Liishka. [From Slonim?] There was one — this elder — who was greater than all of them. He said to me: "If you feel that this brings into you yiras Shamayim and emunah — do not listen — not to Rav Motl — and not to any… Not to the Rav — and not to…" Blessed be Hashem — this was for me a great strengthening — because the world is their world. Yes. [The opponents?] But he had in him some point of truth. He said to me — he reminded me — that I am searching for some truth — that I am searching for truth. So he said to me: "If you feel that this brings into you emunah and yiras Shamayim and fulfillment of the Torah — do not listen to anyone." [Yes.] Like this he said to me — but in a whisper. [And he told you — not to reveal.] By — by the Sea of Kinneret — by the mikveh. And there was not — only I and he. So he said to me — not — not told me that I should not reveal. [He did not tell you?] No — no — no — no. Only — only he — he did not say it in front of people. [In front of people.] He knew that I would not reveal — because what would I gain from this. [Only to lose.]

…And wonders greater than the Exodus from Egypt — that I had — how I merited to come out from all of them — and I overcame with strength and courage. And all of them fell from this. They saw the might — so they fell. They were all against me — and I suffered shame and degradations — such degradations. But there were good gifts. Oy voy.

(not understood) (Saba laughs.) No. [But do you want to write Rebbe Yisroel Odesser?] Ah? [Do you want to write Rebbe Yisroel Odesser — Rebbe — or just Yisroel Ber Odesser?] Yisroel Ber Odesser. [Shlita?] Yes. [Shlita?] Neiro ya'ir. [Neiro ya'ir — N"Y.] [Yisroel Dov — or Yisroel Ber?] Ah? Yisroel Ber. [Yisroel Ber Odesser.] Bais — Ayin — Reish — Yisroel Ber Odesser. [And N"Y.] As it is written — as President Shazar wrote. [Yes.] "Avi HaNachal" — this is the initial letters of Y'sroel B'er O'desser. (Saba laughs.) He was in Hebrew — it was Hebrew. He should have written Yisroel Dov Odesser — Yisroel Dov. No — he wrote it for me in Yiddish — Yisroel Ber. [Yes.] (Saba laughs.) [Saba — this — this is a two-hundred shekel note with the picture of Shazar.] (Saba laughs.) Good. I — perhaps you wanted me to print Avi HaNachal again — so I… [Wait — wait — wait — this is — this is of…] So — so I — so I — so I will distribute the photographs. Shazar and I — he had it made by a great expert from Germany. He brought this — it came out — he and I. (Saba laughs.) [Ah — in Yaakov's picture.] Yes. [This is at Yaakov's.] No — no — I did not tell of this. And now I — this will be a Kiddush Hashem — that all — all — every person — whoever buys the book will see that Shazar was — he {was} my friend. (Saba laughs.) [Good — Rebbe Yisroel Ber Odesser N"Y.] Yes. I made a wedding — a wedding for my son. I made a wedding. [Yes.] So he (Shazar) — he came to the wedding — from his office — to northern Tel Aviv — to some hotel. He came — he came. Yes. And Goldman was there — the head — the head of — of the Jewish Agency. He said to him: "It is impossible that you should travel — I am not — alone I am not — not able to finish alone — you must stay — be here!" So he said to him: "No — no — no — no — I must travel!" So he left him and he traveled. (Saba laughs.)

…A Breslov Chassid will write by him — on the Torah teachings and the prayers of Rabbainu — the writings of Rebbe Nachman. So the name for the book: "Kissvay Rebbe Nachman MiBreslov." [Saba — Saba — Rosh Chodesh Nissan is the birthday of Rabbainu.] Yoy. [Perhaps the book will be finished before that — if only.] If only — if only. (Saba laughs.) Yoy. The printers of the book — I want afterwards perhaps… [To print again.] After it is finished — to print again. [With Hashem's help we will print a million.] Ah? [With Hashem's help we will print millions.] Yes — yes. [Not a thousand.] Yes. [A thousand is a drop from the sea.] Every person will search for "Kissvay Rebbe Nachman." [Yes — with Hashem's help.] This name is very effective — "Kissvay Rebbe Nachman" — and this is the writings of Rebbe Nachman and his student Rebbe Nassan. [Yes.] "Kissvay Rebbe Nachman" — what — what is this? This is something very awesome. The President performed mesiras nefesh. [Yes.] He printed this — he gave it as a gift to the officials — to all the officials of his office and to all the Kness… He — he — he gave to all his friends — without money. (Saba laughs.) [Saba — is it possible to make a page of ilui neshama in the book?] Ah? [To make — to print an ilui neshama page in the book — at the end of the book?] Yes — for the ilui neshama of the President. [The President.] President Shazar. [Rebbe Yisroel Kardonner?] Ah? [Rebbe Yisroel Kardonner — for the ilui neshama of Rebbe Yisroel?] This — this is separate and this is separate. The President — first of all the President. [In the book?] Afterwards… [But…] The holy names begin — Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) and more — and more — and more. [Which — which more? You will think.] [Saba — is it possible to make an ilui neshama?] Ah? [An ilui neshama for relatives?] Yes — yes — yes. [At the end of the book.] Yes — at the end of the book. [And to donate amounts.] Yes — yes — yes — yes. [To help with the printing.] Good — at the end of the book. [Fine.] We will speak of this. [Fine.] Perhaps not — not — not to write the ilui neshama of the President. [Not to write.] Because they will stand up — [and there is also the opposition] — Yerushalayim in Meah Shearim — the Neturei Karta will stand up — and all. [Yes.] And they will say…

…How is it possible to say — this — that this is mine? That this is [they say that this is the handwriting of the Rebbe.] What a small man this is. [I heard that the cabinet was locked.] Ah? [The cabinet was locked.] Even without any {insight} — only to see this writing and this language — already — already one sees that this is Rabbainu. [What is this — what is this secret: "And with this I will reveal to you a secret and it is…"] "Melo v'gadish — melo v'gadish meko l'ko." [This is Kabbalah.] "Patzp…"