...and all, everything, his mother nearly passed away, his mother, and his father wrote to him, "Foolish firstborn." [Is that what he wrote to him?] Yes. [But at the end of his days...] He exchanged Chabad for—for Breslov. [At the end of his days, his father said about him that he derived satisfaction from him. He said that at the end of his days he was indeed pleased. The father of Rav Shmuel Horowitz—my father, Rav Alter, brought—brought to the father of Shmuel Horowitz, to Rav Yeshayah—he brought him Rabbainu's books; he studied Rabbainu's books.] Yes, yes. [Good night.] [Good night.] Good night, a good year, all the best. [All the best, good night.] [Length of days and years.] Yes, take it to heart; look, look at the letters. [Yes.] They are very inspiring. They—many baalei teshuvah were made through—through them. [Yes, all the best, good night.] All the best. [All the best.] (not understood) Father, Father, Rav Alter should come—come to me; I want to see him. [All right, I—I will tell him.] Let him strengthen himself. […………………………..…...] [Good night.] A good one, a good one. [A good Hanukkah, a good year, and all the best.] [………………………………..] [………………………………..] (not understood) [………………………………..] [………………………………..] Uh... […………………………..……] Gideon, Gideon, Gideon. [Yes.] Give them some apple, give them some apple. No, no, I did not give them any refreshments. [……………………………….] [……………………...…..…..]…

...from Tiberias to Haifa, half a lira. Nu, so he looked at me like I was crazy. "What are you talking about? Am I a banker? Do I have half-liras? I have a penny, half a penny, a penny or two pennies, but not half a lira. What is this?" Nu, I was very embarrassed. I said to him: "If you cannot, do not give it." "Leave me alone." No, he said to me: "How do you have such audacity, to ask me to lend you half a lira?" Yes. In the end he did not have it. I did not give him any rest. He—every time he saw me: "What did you do? What? Why did you do that? I cannot rest." He gave me—{the end}—he gave me half a lira, yes. {I repaid him.} [Yes?] Yes. Just from Tiberias to Haifa was half a lira, but from Haifa to Jerusalem— [There was none.] again, again, perhaps more than half a lira. First of all, I traveled from Tiberias to Haifa, {….} than half a lira (not understood). And, thank God, when I wanted to return home, I had no money. Why did I travel to Jerusalem? For money? So, so I entered the Karlin synagogue. There was a porch there, and there was sitting there a "deceased man," a "deceased man"—dead, yes. But I see that he—he—he can be spoken to. I said to him: "Why are you so deeply sad? What is with you? It is forbidden." So he said to me: "Go away from me. I am waiting every moment for my soul to depart. What do you want from me?" At any rate, I said to him: "Tell me, what is wrong with you?" So he said: "What—what will happen, what will happen if I tell you? Can you make a screw? I am missing a screw! I—I am deaf, I cannot hear, I do not know, and I have no livelihood and I have nothing. What can be done? I have no counsel at all, except to destroy myself." But he was God-fearing; he did not want to do that, yes. I said to him: "I have such a tzaddik, who can help you." So he said: "Go {away from here}, go away from me. I—I want to die. What do you want?" At any rate, I—I did not, did not leave him until he began to think, "Maybe, maybe this is good," {...} I took him; I brought him to my house. This was my "money" that I brought from Jerusalem: I brought a guest, not for one day. [He stayed there.] [Two years.] And this man was for me... he was a Litvak, yes. And he began to dance with me. All of Tiberias heard our dancing—the dancing of the "deceased man" {and me}. [Did he draw close to Rabbainu in the end?] At any rate, he had a cure. He—he had a relative who had compassion on him. He said to him: "Sit in the shop. If someone wants a kilo of sugar, give him a kilo of sugar." Good. Someone came in; he wanted a kilo of sugar—a kilo of sugar, nu. He went to bring sugar. He—he had already forgotten what he—what, what, what, what he wanted. He did not remember. He—he did not, did not know; he forgot. He did not know whether—whether it was salt or sugar. He—he was ashamed to go back and ask what—what they wanted. At any rate, he had no choice. He went—went and asked: "What do you want?" "We want sugar." Yes, he went to bring sugar. By the time he went, by the time he took the sugar, he forgot what—what—what they wanted. [He was deaf.] [Huh?] [He was deaf.] He—he asked me: "Does a person like this have any hope? Does he? What? No. I have no counsel at all, except to destroy myself. I will perform a mitzvah; I will perform a mitzvah by destroying myself. So, so, so leave me alone. Do not speak to me. I—I am expecting and waiting for my soul to depart. And you want me to go to Tiberias?" He went to Tiberias. Instead of money from Jerusalem, I brought a guest. He needs to eat; {he needs to eat medicine}. Nu, he was in my home a long time, and he had a complete cure—a cure in its entirety. In Jerusalem he became the... the... [Manager.] The agent, the biggest agent in Jerusalem, yes. His name was “Baruch”; the name of the "deceased man" was “Baruch.” And he had a cure, and made a match and married and had children. His name was “Baruch.” I do not know whether he is still in this world or whether he has gone. Yes, now I do not know where he is. [He was Breslov; he became a Breslover.] Yes, but it was a miracle. How did he listen to me? He asked me: "What—what—what do you want from me? I want to die. No, leave me alone." So I prevailed over him greatly, and did not—I looked at him and said to him: "I know of a tzaddik through whom you can be healed, and you will have... That is how it was. He became the chief agent of—of “Elite,” “Elite.” [Yes.] Yes, the “Elite” factory, “Elite.” [Yes, yes.] Yes. [….] He supported me; he gave me money. That "deceased man." [Deceased-alive.] This can be told. He danced—he was a Litvak—and he danced with me: "In you, Rabbainu, let us rejoice; in you, Rabbainu, let us be glad..." He danced up to—up to the roof. To this day I know his sons, yes, and all—all his story. He had an old mother, very old; he had a mother, yes, yes. And I went with him, and the mother had to—one had to give her what she needed. He—he was the foremost agent in Jerusalem for—for “Elite.” He—the “Elite” merchant said to him: "In all the days of my life I have never seen someone so trustworthy, a man... this is what I need." So he became, he became, he became... [Rich.] Yes, he had a great livelihood. He did not touch even the value of a perutah, yes. So he—“Elite” saw such {trustworthiness}, such trustworthiness, so he said: "This is good for me." So he {became} the foremost... agent in Jerusalem. I am not telling exaggerations; that is how it was. He had strength. He had no wife, children, yes. [Saba...] And he was my neighbor in Meah Shearim, near “Torah VeYirah,” {...} And when he saw me, he was happy and... and laughed. {What I did not hear} from this deceased man, {what...} [Resurrection of the dead.] He did not want to listen; he was afraid. "Go away from me. What, what? Can you—you want to help me, but it is impossible. Do you have screws?" I said to him: "I do not have screws, but I have such a tzaddik, through whom you can have a cure," {yes, a complete one}. And he—I—I said this with all—with all my heart. And he heard it. He was, "I want to die, to die." So he accepted it; he began to accept it and... began to dance. Then already, already... yes. [He became alive.] His name was “Baruch.” He told Aharon Fetz and everyone at Rosh Hashanah in Jerusalem. He—he also came, and he told them what I did—what I had done with him, yes. It was miraculous how—how he came with me to Tiberias, yes. And my wife said to me: "What—what will... what will we do? I have no bread for the children, and how will we give him...?" He was with me a long time, and ate and drank, and he had a cure. Such a cure, as though he were unique in his generation, yes. {This}—his name was “Baruch,” and he would tell them the entire story of the "deceased man." I thought, there is nothing to discuss. He said to me: "Go away from me, go away from me, go away from me." He did not want to listen. What is this? He was a Litvak, yes. But I did not leave him, and I spoke with him, and he began... [To rejoice, to accept.] He began {to understand, to believe, to believe in it} that he would have a cure. So I brought him to Tiberias, and in Tiberias he received a cure. He is famous in Tiberias—“Baruch,” “Baruch,” that is... […..] He was my ne... neighbor near “Torah VeYirah.” [Yes, yes.] Opposite “Torah VeYirah,” yes. He was a Litvak. When he saw me he laughed. He—he saw that he laughed at it. How—how did such a thing, such a thing happen? I am not telling exaggerations; that is how it was. I went out onto the porch; I saw a "deceased man." I was very frightened. I began to speak with the "deceased man": "What—what is with you? What?" He said to me: "Do not speak to me. You cannot help. Go away from here, go away from me. I am waiting every moment for my soul to depart. What—what—what do you want from me? Go, go." I did not leave him, and I took him with me to Tiberias, and he entered Tiberias. And his name was “Baruch.” All of Tiberias already—already knew that I had brought a guest, “Baruch.” [Did he see Rebbe Yisroel? Did he know Rebbe Yisroel?] Now I do not know whether he is alive. [No, but...] I do not know. [Not now.] Where he lives and... [But this was after Rebbe Yisroel...] But he had a cure, yes. He did not touch even less than a perutah—nothing, nothing, nothing. He was so trustworthy, so “Elite” said: "I need a man—a man like that." He became—he made him... [An agent.] The chief agent in Jerusalem. [Did he know Rebbe Yisroel, did he say?] [..] [Did he know Rebbe Yisroel?] [I do not know; ask him.] [So did Baruch know Rebbe Yisroel Kardoner?] Baruch? [Did he know Rebbe Yisroel Kardoner?] Huh? [Did he see Rebbe Yisroel?] No, no, I told him; I told him. [He did not know him.] That he should believe there is—that he should believe, because it would be possible for him to have a cure. I did not promise him. I told him, "Maybe." And he accepted my words, and delighted in them, and he became {….} He saw all the "honor" I had in Tiberias. But all his days he was, in every... He—he—he recited “Likutey Tefilot” a great deal—a Litvak, yes. And he believed in the Litvak rabbis, yes. Oy, oy, oy. It is already good that I am telling this; at any rate, so that it will remain here in the world. I do not know whether he is alive, whether he—whether the "deceased man" is alive. He married, made a good match, and had sons, and had a good livelihood. The chief agent of “Elite.” When he sa... when he—I came to Jerusalem and he saw me, then there was... great play between us. I had brought a "deceased man" to Tiberias, {who will live through this}, Tiberias. [Resurrection of the dead.] He—he was a Litvak, and I—I danced with him in my house. It was an awesome incident. I did not, did not believe that he would agree to listen. "Go, go, go. I want to die. What do you want from me? I already—I am looking every moment for my soul to depart. Go away from me." Such an incident, yes. So the merchant of “Elite” said—said to “Elite,” the proprietor: "I have never seen such a trustworthy man in my life." So he said: "{…..}, I need a man like that," and he took him. I brought—all of Tiberias was afraid of the "deceased man" I had brought to Tiberias. This "deceased man" had a complete cure. {Yes}, how did such a thing happen? He asked me: "Do you have screws?" "The tzaddik has everything," yes. So, so he listened, and then he went, {...}; he came with me to Tiberias. And we both danced on the holy Shabbat. All night we danced and rejoiced, and there was a joyous Shabbat in Tiberias. And he was so devoted to me. The words I spoke with him entered his heart and had—and had their effects, yes. [Thank God.] {..}, I only remember that his name was “Baruch.” [Family name?] Someone came and said to him: "Give me bread; I need bread." So he went and brought a salted fish. "What is this? I want bread, not salted fish." "Yes?... [Bread.] Bread? Good." He went and brought—brought sugar. He forgot, and did not know what—what he wanted, what to give. I knew him and his wife and his sons. [What was his family name?] Huh? [What was his family name?] I do not remember. I know only “Baruch.” Baruch too will be—the name of the "deceased man" was “Baruch.” I said to him: "Why are you so deeply sad?" "What? Go away from me. I am waiting every moment to die. What do you want from me? Go." Until—until I prevailed upon him to go with me to Tiberias—to Tiberias. All of Tiberias would see the "deceased man" I had brought. He was truly like a deceased man, with no difference at all. And he was mighty and very strong in Rabbainu, and he did not listen to any of the opponents—to all of Tiberias. Yes, so all of Tiberias knew that I had brought another Breslov Hasid, {another one}. There were me and Rebbe Yisroel; I brought another one. He was with me a long time, yes. {Every day} waiting and expecting the Angel of Death to come; he does not want to come. And I said to him: "I know of a tzaddik through whom you will have a cure." Yes, he accepted it, {and entered it}. This "deceased man" remained so until—until—until I brought him to Tiberias. Do not ask. [Opposition.] He wanted to die, and I {what} take him to Tiberias. He became like the Simple One; he became in command. He asked: "Without mockery?" [Without mockery.] {Yes}, that is how he accepted th... this, yes. And he became the biggest agent in Jerusalem for “Elite.” [A minister, a great minister.] A “minister.” [A minister.] “Elite” said, "I need a man like that, one so trustworthy?!" [] He was a Litvak, and each time I gave him another book. He knew how to study, yes. I gave him the book “Likutey Tefilot.” I told him that he should sit and study it with all his heart, so he did so, yes. He became a tzaddik through “Likutey Tefilot.” He recited “Likutey Tefilot” a great deal. “Likutey Tefilot” makes tzaddikim. {.…}, the world does not, does not, does not, does not know, and does not want to know. "What, what? 'Likutey Tefilot'? What will happen to the Gemara?" So the deceased man... there was such an incident, “The Incident of the Deceased Baruch.” He had a mother, a very old mother, and he supported her—his mother, what... He gave her however much—however much—however much she wanted, yes. He begged me pleadingly: "Leave me alone. What do you want from me? I am not—I am looking every moment for... my soul to depart, and you do not, do not, do not, do not, do not let me have that." {So}... I said to him: "I know of such a holy tzaddik, through whom you will have a cure." I said it with all my heart; it entered his heart, yes...

...(not understood), and Communism—they all went to the grave; not one of them remained. Where are they? {..} Uman—our holy Rabbainu is {in...}... in Uman, and all {the wor...}—the whole world can come. {There will be... I will have more}; they will come. [Saba and the friends sing: "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman meUman.."]…