…[Here — here — here.] President Sharett — is he — is he here? (Saba laughs.) [His name pursues you until today.] [He wants rectification — how would it not pursue him?] [Shazar.] He said to him: "You are not my friend — and not Ben Gurion. Yisroel Ber Odesser — he is my friend!" (Saba laughs.)

…The opponents said on the Shabbos that he was in Yeru… — that he walked to Yerushalayim on foot — Rav Tzvi Rosenthal. [Yes.] They said that they had sent him to Uman — "you do not know — not — Breslov. They sent him to Uman. He — he is not in the Land." (Saba laughs.)

…[Shazar.] He said: "Ben Gurion and Moshe Sharett — they are not my friends. My friend is only Yisroel Ber — Yisroel Ber Odesser." (Saba laughs.)

[I have a brother — Rafael — I want him to be like me — to sing "Na Nach" — yes — to be Breslov. So he needs such a song for him — a blessing for him.] Ah? [He will be a great Chassid — with Hashem's help.] May Hashem bless him with all salvations — [Amen] — in Torah and yiras Shamayim — and emunah and teshuvah. [Rafael — Rafael ben Shoshana.] Chaim ben Shoshana. [No.] Ah? [Rafael — Rafael.] Rafael ben Shoshana. [Amen — amen — that he should draw close to Rabbainu Nachman.] [Also Gad — Gad ben Rina — Gad ben Rina.] That he merit salvation in the merit of Rabbainu — Rabbainu — "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman." [Now I have another brother — I have a brother who is fine — Shealtiel — Shealtiel ben Shoshana.] Shealtiel ben Shoshana. [May they be good soldiers for Rabbainu — to distribute "Na Nach."]

…I want. [Are you warm? Saba — ah — you did not say Tikkun HaKlali.] No — I already forgot. [So say: "Michtam l'David — shomraini El ki chasisi vach."] [Say: "Hareyni mekasher atzmi…"]

…(One hears a cassette of songs playing.)

…And also they have children. Incidentally they also have sons as well. But the main thing for them is the desire — the… "And these tzaddikim — the tzaddikim — they get married for the sake of children — they want children — for this they get married!" (Saba laughs.) They thought that this — it was hard for them. They did not — not know how to answer this. And he gave them a sufficient response. And they — they — they did not answer. (Saba laughs.) And they nullified themselves before Rebbe Yisroel — and they loved him for all that he had spoken with them — and he answered them everything. And they nullified themselves — and they drew close — and they drew close to Rabbainu. Yes. And they supported him and… Yes. Oy. (Saba laughs.) They did not — the first time in their lives — the three — the three wise ones — they — they saw for the first time in their lives such a commotion. So when they heard — so they asked: "What is this commotion? What? What is there?" "Ho — have you not heard that Yisroel Ber has become Breslov?" "We heard. Nu — so what?" "What? — they took him — Rav Tzvi (Rosenthal.)" And they told him. They saw such commotion — such — what is this Breslov? And Rav Tzvi went to pray. (Saba laughs.) On Sunday I was afraid — perhaps the village chief wants money? He will come again and take me to prison. Money — "Where is Rav Tzvi? Money — only money — money!" (Saba laughs.) So — so I saw a place near the Karlin synagogue — a place — a closed place — a place where one cannot see. I was there the whole day near the synagogue. Yes. Perhaps Mordechai will come with the policemen — I… And they — not one person knew who — where — where I am. So they will go to search. (Saba laughs.) In any case I — I was there until Minchah. At Minchah I went up — from the place where I was — to the synagogue — to pray Minchah — to hear Kedushah and… There came — there came the elder — Rav Kehas — Rav Kehas — he — he was a Karliner. And also — and also the father of the wife — of the wife of Rav Tzvi Rosenthal — was also a Karliner. And they were friends. So Rav Kehas went to pray Minchah — and heard that the police had taken Mordechai — the village chief — to Istanbul. And there is against him a great complaint — that he is a spy — that he… Yes. So Rav Kehas said: "This is Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) — Rebbe Yisroel — this is the doing of Rebbe Yisroel — Rebbe Yisroel — he punished him — he — he — he gave him a punishment. Hashem gave him a punishment for this — for this Shabbos — he — they took him. And from that time he vanished — I did not see him. He had… Teveria did not see him anymore. Perhaps he… I think they killed him. A spy — there was a complaint that he is a spy. So the English — they — they — they — they were at war with Turkey. And here was Turkey — also Syria was Turkey — and Lebanon was Turkey — everything was Turkey. Yoy — and… Nu — Turkey. And the complaint was that Mordechai is a spy — he — he — he is a spy — everything there is here in Turkey — he passes on to the enemy — to their enemy. So this is espionage. So he did not return alive — from the day — from that first day. He did not return to Teveria — not to the Land of Yisroel. Not — not known where — where he is — where he is. Yes. Whether they killed him and… In any case — not known. Teveria remained without the village chief — without Mordechai! Yes. (Saba laughs.) He made such a Shabbos — so he had such a Sunday — that they took him to Istanbul — and he did not return alive. (Saba laughs.) This was like a spectacle — such a spectacle. The whole city was in uproar. The Sephardim — they — they are a people unto themselves. They do not know what there is among the Ashkenazim. And the Ashkenazim do not know what there is among the Sephardim. Two — two — two separate faiths — this is Sephardim — and this is Ashkenazim. Yes. The one of them does not resemble the other. But the affair of Rav Tzvi (Rosenthal)? There was all — all the city — all the Sephardim knew that such a thing — such a thing had happened. (Saba laughs.) That Rav Tzvi went to pray — to pray on Friday — and not — and not returned! (Saba laughs.) Nu — the whole city — both the Ashkenazim and the Sephardim — all were — all were — there was such a commotion: "How does one take… How does one do such a thing? On Friday — one goes to pray — and not…?" (Saba laughs.) This — this is not — this — this is such a wondrous affair as we have not yet heard! The affair — how is it possible…? How does one do such a thing? (Saba laughs.) He walked on Friday to Yerushalayim on foot. He had no money to travel. He walked on Friday — he went to pray — and from the synagogue he walked to Yerushalayim. (Saba laughs.) Has such an affair ever been heard? The uproar that there was in all of Teveria — among the Ashkenazim and the Sephardim — there was… Everyone spoke of Breslov: "What is this?"