He — from Breslov. Aharon Zeitlin — he is from Breslov. (Saba laughs.) Yes. And one sees even now — they — they hold the Rambam in high regard. Yes. And they say that the Rambam compared to Rabbainu is nothing. There was none like — like — like Rabbainu {in the world}. There is none — none — none — none — no such holiness — no such wise man — and no one who speaks such words. (Saba laughs.) Like — like the holy Rabbainu. In his Torah teachings and in his stories they are nullified. Yes. This was not — before seventy years. Yes. And we see this. This is beyond nature. Because they should have distanced — distanced — Rabbainu from their hearts and from their seed and from… They should have imposed a cherem even upon Rabbainu's books. [In truth at the beginning there was a cherem.] Yes. (Saba laughs.) [At the beginning there was indeed — but little by little with time the cherem was forgotten — everything was forgotten — and the world arrived at such tohu vovohu — that without Rabbainu there is nothing.] Yes. (Saba laughs.) [Only the light of Rabbainu is already illuminating in the world — no other light illuminates.] And this — and this — we do not — do not know. We only have emunah. We know nothing. But we… What we see — that they are printing Rabbainu's books and one can read everywhere — in the synagogue and everywhere. And not — there is no prohibition to study Rabbainu's books. This — this is a sign of the redemption! This — this is already… Yes. And I saw with my own eyes now — from this generation. You do not know what was. I — I saw this what. (Saba laughs.) What it was — there was a prohibition to touch the books — Breslov books. How will the redemption come? And how… 'Gamarti v'agmor' — what is 'Gamarti v'agmor'? They don't want to touch Breslov books. (Saba laughs.) And Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) printed with mesiras nefesh — for whom? For whom? Breslov books? There are many books of chassidus — why is Breslov needed? There is — there is "Reishis Chochmah" and there is {"Mishnah Berurah"} and there is… ["Mesillas Yesharim."] And there is — and there is — and there is… What? One can — one can live without — without Breslov books! One can… (Saba laughs.) Nu. And I saw — I saw this. How will the redemption come? And how — how… What will be? The world does not want to touch Breslov books. (Saba laughs.) Nu. And now we see a thing beyond nature — a complete reversal. Today one can — one can understand that a time will come when the whole world — all — all the world will draw close — will draw close to Rabbainu — with such self-nullification — that they will cast everything aside — only Rabbainu! (Saba laughs.) Yes…

Whoever he is — whoever he says… The world can think about — about Chabad — about Chabad that it is… Yes. And this is complete falsehood — complete falsehood! Nu. So for this reason — for this reason — such darkness in the world! [Rabbainu already — when he met the Ba'al HaTanya — you told me that the Ba'al HaTanya said about him — after he — after Rabbainu met him] — yes. [So the Ba'al HaTanya said a verse from Tehillim] — yes! [That he explained to Rabbainu — that Rabbainu merited to hear his — his great words. The Ba'al HaTanya spoke for about two hours with Rabbainu — and Rabbainu listened.] Yes, yes. [And the Ba'al HaTanya said to him some verse from Tehillim.] Yes. [What was the verse that he said to him?]

Ah — yes. He should have asked Rabbainu to say some — some novelties — some Torah. And he — he said Torah for more than two hours — a long time. [Many hours.] He said the Torah before Rabbainu. [Yes — and at the end of his words he said to him some… did you merit?] At the end — at the end — at the end — at the end of his words — at the end he said… After saying Torah for several hours — at the end he finished: "Rachamecha…" He explained the verse. [In Tehillim?] In Tehillim. "Rachamecha harabim Hashem" — in "Ashray temimay darech" — there is {do not seek} — there is the letter Raish — "Rachamecha rabim Hashem" — "Rachamecha rabim Hashem." [Yes.] There is such a verse: "Rachamecha rabim Hashem." There is further on some… But "Rachamecha rabim Hashem" — "Rachamecha rabim Hashem." [In what — in what — in what Psalm is this?] In the letter Raish — Psalm 1… one-nineteen. [Ah — one-nineteen — in the letter Raish.] In the letter Raish. [Yes, yes.]

Yes. "Rachamecha rabim Hashem." "Rachami…" So he — he explained the "Rachamecha rabim Hashem" — "Rachamecha" — the compassion that is upon You — many — very many. "Rachamecha rabim…" [Upon Rabbainu.] Yes. [As if he — Heaven forfend.] For the sake of Rabbainu. [Yes.] Upon the Holy One Blessed Be He. [Yes — that the Holy One Blessed Be He has great compassion upon Rabbainu — that he heard all the…] Dovid HaMelech says: "Rachamecha" — the compassion that is upon You — upon the Holy One Blessed Be He — many — very many. "Rachamecha…" The simple interpretation is: "Rachamecha" — the compassion of the Holy One Blessed Be He is very great. And he explained: the compassion that is upon You — upon the Holy One Blessed Be He — very great. There is great compassion — he says Torah about the holy Rabbainu. This — this is great compassion upon the Holy One Blessed Be He — that there is — that there is such darkness in the world — that he says Torah before Rabbainu. [Rabbainu… "Rachamecha" — he explained there — at the conclusion of his Torah — yes.] He explained: "Rachamecha rabim Hashem" — "Rachamecha" — this is simple — "Rachamecha" — the compassion of Hashem — of the Holy One Blessed Be He — upon us — very great. He — he — he had compa… [Yes — the compassion of the Holy One Blessed Be He.] The Merciful One have mercy upon us. Yes. [Yes.] And he explained: "Rachamecha" — the compassion that is upon You. [The Ba'al HaTanya — the Ba'al HaTanya explained.] The Ba'al HaTanya. [Upon — upon Rabbainu.] Ah — ah? [He said this as if the Holy One Blessed Be He has compassion upon Rabbainu — that the Holy One Blessed Be He has great compassion upon Rabbainu — that he merited to hear all the Torah — he merited to hear so much Torah?] No. [It does not seem to me — he — he hinted…] [Wait — wait — wait.]

"Rachamecha" — there is great compassion upon the Holy One Blessed Be He — that there is such a thing in the world — that he says Torah before Rabbainu. [Ah.] The holy Rabbainu — he explained it. He did not — he did not know what he was explaining. "Rachamecha" — the compassion that is upon You — upon the Holy One Blessed Be He — very great. The holy Rabbainu — yes. He — he… There is significance in this — there is significance — that there is great compassion upon the Holy One Blessed Be He — that he says Torah before Rabbainu — because the compassion for You is great. (Saba laughs.) (not understood) Do you still not understand? [I understand.] (Saba laughs.) [But I don't understand how the Ba'al HaTanya was able to say this? What — what did he intend? After all he…] He — he explained like this. And he did not know what he… [What he said.] Yes, yes. And the holy Rabbainu concluded. Yes. [He understood.] Yes — what he said. [He said and did not know what he said.] He did not know. Yes, yes. (Saba laughs.) One sees from all the Torah that he said — so the holy Rabbainu said about this — it was — this — this — this good! [This is good.] (Saba laughs.) From all his Torah — "Rachamecha rabim Hashem" — there is great compassion upon You — the one who says Torah before Rabbainu. (Saba laughs.) He did not intend this — he — he — he — he did not know. He said and he did not know what he said. The holy Rabbainu explained what he said! (Saba laughs.) He said Torah before Rabbainu. (Saba laughs.) He is a gaon. Yes. He does not know what this is — who said — where — where… [But he revealed himself to Rabbainu completely — who he is — what he is — in that he spoke so much before Rabbainu.] There are many explanations of this. But the holy Rabbainu said about this: from all the Torah that he re… he said several hours. [Yes.] So this — this — this is good! [This is good.] Yes. "Rachamecha rabim Hashem." (Saba laughs.) There is great compassion upon You — the one who says Torah before Rabbainu. (Saba laughs.)

Nu. But we must announce that Chabad is falsehood! [That Chabad… we must announce that Chabad is falsehood.] [Ah — yes.] [We must know.] And if it is hard? Let it be hard for him! Who finds it hard? Nu… Like this. [Why?] {Mitzvos}. Against the holy Rabbainu — there is some chassidus that has truth in it. So against Rabbainu — everyone must receive from Rabbainu. Satmar and Chabad and… yes. Even {great Admor'im}. Yes. And if they oppose Rabbainu — then they are falsehood! The reverse — the reverse — the reverse. A tzaddik becomes a wicked one. The reverse of truth — this is falsehood! Yes…

…that he merited to see the light of Rabbainu — one in the world. Yes. (Saba laughs.) And also even the people of Rabbainu — the people of Rabbainu were — were such holy tzaddikim — that they {were not} close to Rabbainu. And the holy Rabbainu brought out — brought them out from all — {from shore to settled land}. And it was such a wonder. Nu. But Rebbe Nassan was — was…

Not for nothing was there such a concealment — such a concealment about Rabbainu and… Yes. But this — had it not been — had it not been for the Gra (of Vilna) who disputed — the Ba'al Shem Tov — the Ba'al Shem Tov — so there would not have been the dispute about — about Rabbainu. There would already have been a matter {of great light}. Rabbainu would already have been revealed in the world. Yes. And what would have been — would have been. And the world fell into such darkness as we see. And the holy Rabbainu announced this. Yes. But all — all — all is ready — ready for the redemption! Yes — that it should be revealed and exalted. (Saba laughs.) Precisely from such a dispute and such a concealment — the honor of Hashem will be more and more. [The longer the time extends — so the redemption becomes more and more beautiful.] Yes. Breslov — Breslov? (Saba laughs.) They will tell all — all that passed upon each and every one. Yes. (Saba laughs.) Many stories — there will be stories from each and every one! (Saba laughs.) There is no lawlessness…

Oy voy — oy voy. I received from Rav Shlomo (Wexler) — and I — I received. Yes. And I saw wonders… wonders in the words of Rav Shlomo — that he himself did not — did not — did not know. He — I…

Yes — I saw our people — Rav Gedalyah — Rav Gedalyah Berger — our people…

He — he — he — all of it. The Petek — it is all entirely a wonder that is impossible to attain. How it lived sixty years without publication — without… And there was no — no — no thought at all that it would be publicized. Yes. And he — and he was in the world for sixty years without any action — nothing. Why? It was possible for it to be now — the Petek was — it was sixty years ago. Why was it so?… (Saba laughs.) Yes. Like this we do not understand. And how it lived — and how a piece of paper lived sixty years? And I did not — did not know as I know today what this is. I only knew that this is a wonder. But I did not know what. Yes. (Saba laughs.) And also today — now also — not — not knowing — not knowing what — what there is in this. Yes. All the words of Rabbainu are beyond nature. The "Sipuray Ma'asiyos" — the Torah teachings — the conversations — and the "Chayay Moharan." (Saba laughs.) And all the words of Rabbainu and Rebbe Nassan — all of it. We must guard every moment that we live — to place all our power and our mind and our heart in the "Likutay Halachos" — "Likutay Aytzos" — and that this should be set in all the limbs — in all the mind — in the heart — in every limb — for the sake of serving Hashem. Not — not… [Not for the sake of…] to be expert for the sake of — for the sake of… [For the sake of the world.] Yes. [For the sake of the Holy One Blessed Be He.] This is a great honor — to be expert in Likutay Moharan. But not for the sake of honor — not b… Only for the sake of… [For the sake of the honor of Hashem.] For the sake of — for the sake of. [The honor of the tzaddik.] To serve the Holy One Blessed Be He with every word. Yes. [For the sake of revealing Rabbainu in the world — to merit to…] How did Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) become what he became? And how did all his people become what they became? All the people of Rabbainu and the people of Rebbe Nassan — who were such holy ones — such men of truth? Yes. And how? If not for Likutay Tfilos and Likutay Moharan and the conversations that we had from Rebbe Nassan — there was not yet in the world Likutay Halachos — nor Likutay Aytzos — nor Chayay Moharan — not yet… Yes. We are fortunate — we have ready "Chayay Moharan" and "Alim LaTerufah." There was not yet — there was — there were letters. But they were with Rav Yitzchak — the son of — of — of Rebbe Nassan. Yes. Written — handwritten. [Not yet printed.] There were none. Yes. Nu. And we already have [all the treasures] — "Alim LaTerufah" and "Chayay Moharan" and "Yemay Moharnat." ["Sefer HaMidos" and "Likutay Aytzos."] And there were still many writings that we did not merit to have. [Yes?] I saw them. Yes. [Where were they?] There were — there were springs! [When? In the time of Shlomo — Rav Shlomo Wexler — or when?] Yes! [Before the Second World War?] Ah? [Before the war.] Yes. This… [With whom were these writings?] Shmuel Horovitz. [Shmuel Horovitz — and today? Where is it today? Still with him?] Today I think… [Writings of whom? Of Rebbe Nassan?] Or with the children — or with… [Writings of — writings of Rebbe Nassan?] Nassan Tzvi Kenig. [Ah.] He was a student of his. [The writings — the writings — they were from Rebbe Nassan? About what?] They were from Rebbe Nassan. And there was what was lost. [Until now.] I had Likutay Tfilos in the handwriting of — of Rebbe Nassan. [Handwriting of Rebbe Nassan?] Yes — yes. And also I had from Rebbe Naftali — Chayay Moharan as written by Rebbe Naftali — awesome secrets — yes — that were not revealed in the world. And if they were to be found now — they would be printing them… Good — what — what we have! (Saba laughs.) But we must guard our time very much. Every moment is precious — not to lose — not a single moment should be lost. Only always to be immersed — mind and heart — in the words. Because we need them like breathing. Every word. [Rabbainu said: "It is very hard to draw close to me."] Yes. [This is a great battle. The Ba'al Davar comes with all his powers. Only not to err — only not to do…] But we must pray greatly — more — [more and more] — more and more. More mesiras nefesh. Yes. (Saba laughs.) And to flee to the Holy One Blessed Be He and to pray with tears — with all the heart — with all the strength: "Rachem alay — Rachem alay!" There is — there is Likutay Tfilos like that. Oy — what will become of me? Why am I — are we so distant? And also we did not guard our time — we do not keep Torah — we do not keep as — for what reason — this is the main reason we are distant from Rabbainu. For the reason that we do not hold in esteem — we do not set within our hearts all the words of Likutay Moharan and Likutay Halachos and all… Yes. If — if {we had been studying} — we would have been holy tzaddikim and we would have studied much Gemara — {no — no} — we would have understood the Gemara illuminating within us — what, what, what there is in it. Not as it is now — that they know nothing — they don't know Gemara — they don't know… They think they are geonim and not… And they say Heaven forfend about Breslov that it is… Yes. (Saba laughs.) Nu, nu — the time will come… Blessed be Hashem that we are sitting in this world and speaking such words — that the whole world is completely distant from this. But the time will come when the whole world will know of this. Yes. And they will look and speak of it. Yes. Even the yeshivos — only to study Rabbainu's books — there will be many yeshivos. Yes. (Saba laughs.) They will learn… Not for the sake of — not for the sake of honor. Only for the sake of Hashem — the honor of Hashem. "Who is this King of glory?" (Saba laughs.) [Can it be — can it be — that Rabbainu will succeed in doing this even before Mashiach Tzidkaynu comes — that they will study and there will be yeshivos that will only study Rabbainu's books? Or only after… Rabbainu said: that his light will be hidden until — the Shpoyler Zeideh hid the light of Rabbainu — until the coming of Mashiach Tzidkaynu. So yeshivos of this type will be only after — only after the coming of…] We do not need — [now in our time] — we do not need to delve and investigate and… [yes — yes] — what there is. [What there is.] What there is — is enough. [This is enough — this…] There is Likutay Moharan — blessed be Hashem — fortunate are we. There is Likutay Tfilos — fortunate are we. (Saba laughs.) There is Sichot HaRan and there is Likutay Aytzos — fortunate are we. Everything — fortunate are we! Blessed be Hashem in general. According to our deeds — this is also a miracle — great miracles. [Miracles that we can do.] What we have — what we have in this.

This — for the world — it is a matter of laughter. Yes. And also the Petek — there are — there are — there are in Breslov those who say that this is idolatry — that this is… I — I don't want to say. But they say like this. Do you know of this? [Yes — yes.] (Saba laughs.) Yes. And this is a miracle of… that the Holy One Blessed Be He arranged that Feinstein gave a recommendation. If not for this — they would have — would have placed us in cherem. Yes. But like this — they — they — they are angry and they say what they say. But not — but not in such a way as to destroy. Yes. (Saba laughs.) Because this is not acceptable to the mind. "Nachman MeUman" — he from Uman comes to Teveria — to a yeshiva — to an ark — to a book. And I opened the book — it was there. And they told me beforehand: "Go in — do like this — take out a book and open it — and there you will find — you will find a remedy for your soul." And it was — I immediately saw the — I opened the book — saw the — but the paper — it did not — did not occur to me that it was something — a paper — a piece of paper — what? (Saba laughs.) Yes. And from this paper — what came about came about. (Saba laughs.) It lived sixty years without publication — without — without action — without anything. (Saba laughs.) [But one sees that in the last three years] — always — always. [It is becoming publicized everywhere.] This is a wonder. [In New York — in the United States — in newspapers — on radio — on television.] Little by little. [Everyone — two million people saw the Petek on television.] Yes. [This is a program that the masses see it.] And no one opposed it. [They did not oppose it — they did not laugh.] There is a government and there are members of Knesset. [On the contrary — Eliezer Shoshtak.] There are journalists. [On the contrary — a minister — a minister — a member — one of the members of Knesset — Eliezer Shoshtak — further wanted a photograph of the Petek — received a photograph.] Yes. [People asked for amulets.] Yes. [With the name "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman" — they received it with honor.] Yes. [Not only did they not treat it lightly.] But we see that this is a miracle — how do they not laugh in the Knesset about the Petek? (Saba laughs.) Yes — no? [They do not laugh.] No — they did not speak of it — they received it and spoke of it — and not — and did not speak. (Saba laughs.) There are journalists and there is a government and there are members of Knesset. [Yes — they could have done this on radio — in the press.] Nothing — nothing — nothing. Radio — no. No one opened their mouth to speak about… [On the contrary — even with honor.] Yes. [When we were on the radio — on the contrary — with honor.] (Saba laughs.) [So perhaps may it be the will that… these are great signs that the people of Yisroel are beginning to draw close to the drawing force — yes? To Rabbainu?] One does not need… If one sees the Petek in a photograph — the photograph. [Yes.] One sees that this is not — that this is not — not simple. One feels that this is not simple. Yes. (Saba laughs.) How it was created — and how it exists in the world — and how?… It was in great dangers like these. It was in Poland. And they — the Poles — a thing that did not appear right to them — they would tear it apart. And there are those who write to me: "Do not be a fool — you are desecrating Hashem's name — you — you make from a piece of paper you make… How in these generations can there be a miracle — such miracles? In these generations? In this darkness?" [But one sees the compassion of the Holy One Blessed Be He] — yes. [That He gave you the insight to send it before the World War] — yes. [The Petek to Poland] — yes. [Perhaps — perhaps it would have saved them from the decree — this — this — this could have been?] They asked me. [No — if the matter had been accepted — perhaps it could have nullified terrible decrees over the people of Yisroel.] Nu — but — but no… [They did not accept? They did not accept.] Blessed be Hashem — we must thank Hashem that they returned it. [They returned it — they sent it back.] And I received it back from the post. [This also — this also shows that they accepted it — that not — that not…] That they accepted? [That they accepted it.] Yes. If not — they would — they would have torn it apart. Yes. They were men of truth. So… Yes. (Saba laughs.) And now I — I feel — I see that I did — that I did such a mistake. How — how did I send this by post to Poland? [So this is the compassion of the Holy One Blessed Be He — He took away your mind — this is compassion — perhaps — perhaps they will accept — perhaps they will do — perhaps the redemption will come through this — perhaps they will begin to accept — perhaps — six million Jews.] If they had accepted like me — like me? [Perhaps everything would have been nullified — the entire decree.] Who knows — who — who knows — who knows?

[This is the compassion of the Holy One Blessed Be He — a remedy preceding the blow — He prepared the remedy before the blow — a decree of six million Jews — before the Second World War — this Petek.] Oy! [If they had accepted it.] Oy. [Perhaps it would not have been — perhaps it would not have been six million — if they had accepted it as you did.] But… [But this is the Holy One Blessed Be He — great compassion.] But this was a miracle that I received it back — that it exists alive — it exists in the world. (Saba laughs.) And then there was not even — even — even a photograph — there was none. No photograph at all — as if it did not exist in the world. Yes. Now even if — Heaven forfend — if — if — if the original — if it — if it does not survive — if it… [Heaven forfend.] So there are photographs. In any case there is a photograph as — as — as the original. The photograph is like the original. (Saba laughs.) But then there was no photograph — nothing. If not — if I had not received it back — it would not have been — as if it had never existed at all in the world. Yes. But now the world already knows that there is — that there is a letter — that there is such a thing. Yes. And there is a photograph and there is… They speak of it. (Saba laughs.)

Oy — fortunate are we — fortunate are we — {oy — fortunate are we truly}. I traveled to Yerushalayim — I was in Teveria. I — Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) passed away and I remained alone — one — one in the city — one. (Saba laughs.) And I… [One in the world.] One. And I laughed at everyone. I danced in my home — and always — always in my home it was like a wedding — joy — nigunim and dancing — even on weekdays. On Shabbos — this was… yes. And this was a power. And this was a wonder — a wondrous thing from Rabbainu. [A simple song — double — triple — quadruple.] Yes. (Saba laughs.) And also everything that I did was a sanctification of Hashem. I traveled to Yerushalayim — and the whole city of Teveria — this is not Yerushalayim — Teveria is a small city — everyone knows. Yisroel Ber — they had not heard — we had not heard the Zemirot of Shabbos. It seems he went to Yerushalayim. And when I came: "Ho — Yisroel Ber — he went to Yerushalayim — he brought new nigunim and he… (Saba laughs.)" And so on and so forth. I brought to Teveria — Baruch — the… this. Yes. [Yes — who had the illness of forgetting.] Yes. And there was — the whole city was: "Yisroel Ber brought to Teveria a guest — at — at his own expense…" Yes. (Saba laughs.) This is not Yerushalayim — this is a small city — everyone knew everything that passed. Yes. (Saba laughs.) And they were astonished — how can the wife — how can the wife have nothing — not a piece of bread — and he… And I went to Yerushalayim and instead of money I brought a guest. (Saba laughs.) [Another guest.] Yes. This is not a matter of ordinary behavior — this was a sanctification of Hashem. Yes. This was a sanctification of Hashem. Everything was a sanctification of Hashem. I danced — I rejoiced — there was… And I was in joy — sanctification of Hashem…

Put on tefillin. I — I put on tefillin. Not — not for le… Yes. But this — it was in any case holy — of itself. (not understood) Yes. I was on Purim. On Purim they — they — they — they were all together. They were all opponents — and they mocked me — in particular on Purim — a time — a time of laughter — a time. Yes. (Saba laughs.) I was there and wanted to drink. So — but it was already finished — the wine was finished. Yes — there was none — there was none. So I said to them: "There is no wine? Take money." I had — this was Purim — it was on a — on Thursday. And on Friday one needs to buy for Shabbos. Yes. And I had a half-lira in my pocket — in my pocket I had a half-lira. So for Shabbos — so I took out the half-lira and said… and gave them: "Bring wine!" (Saba laughs.) Yes. And there was laughter. But they did not…

And they did not buy — they did not buy wine. They knew I was poor — what? Yes. They did not buy wine. And in the morning they returned to me my half-lira. Do you remember? (Saba laughs.) [Ah — did they give you wine or not give you wine?] I had a paper — a half-lira note. [Yes — but did they give you to drink?] Ah. [Or did they not give you to drink?] They did not give me. [They did not give.] But I was already drunk. [So you were already drunk.] Yes. They think that he does not know what he is saying — what he is doing. Yes. (Saba laughs.) So in the morning — in the morning. [They returned the money.] They returned to me — take the half-lira — do you remember that you gave me a half-lira for wine? (Saba laughs.) Yes — yes. They were mocking. But as the holy Rabbainu says: "My matter is in disgrace — but in great honor." Yes — like this. They mocked. But this is great honor. They saw that I take a half-lira that I had set aside for Shabbos — and I give it for — for wine for Purim. (Saba laughs.) Yes. This — this was a wonder for them — who does such a thing? A poor man who has a half-lira — his entire pocket is a half-lira for Shabbos — and he gives it for wine. (Saba laughs.)

This is already many years — and I remember it as now — as now — how I took out from the pocket — from the pocket the half-lira and gave it to them wholeheartedly. Yes. "Go — bring wine!" (Saba laughs.)

Master of the Universe — may Hashem have mercy upon us. The Ba'al Davar wants to bring us down always. [All the time.] And to make forget — and to make everything forgotten. Who are you? What are you? What are you speaking? What — what — what? Yes. (Saba laughs.) So he wants that — that such words should not remain in the world. Yes. For him — for the Ba'al Davar — this is a deadly poison. He is not at peace with it. He… yes. But blessed be Hashem — the Holy One Blessed Be He: "Gamarti v'agmor" — so we are sitting now. [You were speaking about Purim — I recalled Purim in Los Angeles — what miracles and wonders we had on Purim.] Yes — yes — yes. [How the Holy One Blessed Be He arranged for us an apartment with food on Purim — and the reading of the Megillah.] Yes — yes — yes — yes — yes. (Saba laughs.) [All of it — and the journey.] And the journey — the journey! [Journey — to travel.] {And money.} (Saba laughs.) [Yes — there and back — and all — all.] Oy voy — this also will be a story… [The Weber family — five months — a fine hotel — the Weber family.] Yes — yes — yes. [Five months — a fine hotel — all of it. They took us to Feinstein. He took us in his car to Feinstein.] Yes — yes — yes. [All of it — all of it was the service of Rabbainu — miracles and wonders.] And also — and also I had sorrow — for what purpose did I travel to America? Nothing. No dollars — no printing — nothing. What — what? But this — this (Saba laughs) — this — this is the Petek — this… [This is one of the… this helps.] This is the Petek. Yes. But he came to Feinstein and gave a recommendation — and this is a great matter — a great matter. This is 'gamarti v'agmor.' Yoy. Good. Yes. They say what they say. But not with such noise and insistence. Yes — weakly. He already… How — how can it be — how can it be (not understood) Feinstein. (Saba laughs.) Yes. Without this we would not have existed — they stood against us with every kind of scheme — every kind of scheme. Yes. To destroy us — to erase us. What is this Petek? What is this?… Yoy. [No — Rabbainu has Feinstein.] (Saba laughs.) [He brought Feinstein into the world for the purpose of bringing a recommendation for the Petek — eighty years he studied Gemara.] In any case he cries out — but who listens to him? Feinstein! [Yes — this is Feinstein — what — you don't…] What? Levi Yitzchak (Bender) — he is Feinstein? Feinstein. (Saba laughs.) [All the wise men of the generation — there is — there is Feinstein — he is wiser than you.] Yes. (not understood) [What? The posek of the generation established that the Petek is —] a miracle. [Yes.] It was a miracle — the whole Petek was a miracle. How — how it was created — how — how — how it… [There are two.] Yes. (Saba laughs.) [Like the Petek — like the Petek descended from the heavens — from New York — there is a Petek from Uman — there is a Petek from New York — there is "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman" — and Feinstein from New York.] (Saba laughs.) They say — they say that we travel every time to America for the petek'os — for publicizing — for… Yes. (not understood) (Saba laughs.) Oy. [Fortunate are we.]

We travel to America for money — because not everyone travels to America like this — only for dollars. Yes. [Yes — to the country of wealth.] All — everyone — all — all the students of — of… [Yes — of all the yeshivos.] Of Levi Yitzchak (Bender). Yes. Why do they travel to America? To publicize the Name of Hashem? For a livelihood! This needs a hachnasas kallah — and this needs… yes. There is — there is there. Yes. For this reason they think that we also are like this — we need money. [Money — money.] (Saba laughs.) There are such Breslovers of Levi Yitzchak (Bender) — and there are Breslovers {like this} — but it is all money. (Saba laughs.) [There is the Petek — this is the matter. Nine months — not to collect even one dollar? One?] (Saba laughs.) [Only Torah and prayer all the time — is it impossible to learn here?] These prayers of yours — make lists — make great prayers. We do not… Truly. Yes. (Saba laughs.) You did not know what — what you were doing. The Holy One Blessed Be He — He knew what this is. (Saba laughs.) [He is the King of glory.] To say many prayers in America? ["Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman" — under the mikveh.] Yes. And what — how did we travel to America? Where? How did we travel? Where does one get money to travel to America? Four souls — Meir — Aharon — you — and I. [Ah — on the most recent trip now.] Yes — on the most recent trip. And also the first trip — Morris and you and… [Yes — where did the money come from? It comes from nothing also.] What — America? To travel to America one needs a lot of money — what is this? Especially two — three. [Good — now…] And also one needs to eat — three people need to eat. (Saba laughs.) [To eat — apartment — place to sleep.] Apartment. Yes. Where — where? What is this? (Saba laughs.) All of this will be — will be the stories — the stories they will tell — they will tell at the coming of Mashiach. Yes. (Saba laughs.) [Now we are going to establish the most beautiful factory — engineer — we are paying a lot.] Yes — now we will do more. [More and more — and more.] Such an engineer? [This is the best engineer in the country.] (Saba laughs.) Nu. And Hashem… That we should merit — if only we should merit to see the printing press and the building and everything. [With Hashem's help — with Hashem's help.] Blessed be Hashem — we have already prepared. The association has a license — whoever — all donors — all generous ones who donate… [Yes — you have a tax exemption — yes.] So — so — so whoever half… [Yes — tax exemption.] Income tax exemption — this too is a great thing. How are we — how — we are not Americans. [Yes — yes.] But there are also Americans. (Saba laughs.) [We have — Rabbainu has representatives in America — Leibel.] (Saba laughs.) [Leibel — Aryeh.] Yes. [We have Aryeh in America.] Yes — yes. [Who cries out "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman" with a great voice and dances beautiful dances.] (Saba laughs.) [Indian dances.]

And this can be that there will be millio… many — many generous donors — many — many — many wealthy ones who will give — who will give for this. Yes. And the wedding — slowly — slowly. This is not… Suddenly a wedding is made? [Yes.] (Saba laughs.) Nu — where…

I can — Heaven forfend — fall — fall — to err regarding the state of my health. And I cannot — I — when I walk from here to the toilet — [it is hard] — this — this is a miracle that I do not fall. No one knows. They think I walk slowly — slowly. But I — I — I am afraid to walk lest I fall. If — Heaven forfend — you know what it means — a fall? [Yes.] Your father. [Ho — ho.] That the Holy One Blessed Be He save me. Yes. I am afraid that I should not fall. [But his fall was for the purpose of a great ascent. If he had not fallen — he would not have risen.] (Saba laughs.) [This is a fall that elevated him to Rabbainu — brought him to Rabbainu.] Yes — yes — yes — certainly. Yes. He saw with his mind — with his heart. And he received Shema Yisroel. Yes. [With the tefillin of Rebbe Yisroel Kardonner.] And the holy Rabbainu. Yes. So and he… [Blessed be Hashem — this is a miracle from Rabbainu.] Oy — oy voy — oy — oy — oy — oy. [The friend sings "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman…"] (Saba laughs.) This was the first time in America. (Saba laughs.) [The grandson of Yaakov Kaminsky — this is the grandson of one of the great ones of the Lithuanian generation.] Yes. [Suddenly his mind was turned around — he needs to make a song about the Petek — for the radio — so they would know.] (Saba laughs.) [There is "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman" — this is a segulah.] (Saba laughs.)

The Petek. There is a Petek — this is in America. This… (Saba laughs.) The recommendation of Feinstein. How — how — how did he have money for Feinstein — one needs to travel and return and… How? Yes. (Saba laughs.)

[From here it is finished — now one can speak afresh. This will not be — what I am now recording — it is as if it comes over this and erases everything. Now this is new — what…] But there is none — not — not — there will not be {openly}. [No — no — secrets — secrets about the redemption are not revealed. This is part — there are things that you…] The world does not need to know. (Saba laughs.)